Words That Kill

[Triple B333]

Heh what a strong showing by everyone in the group. I'd like to start by saying that I am a master of nonverbal communication. Both of my parents are college professors and are extremely intelligent. They have taught me to spot things that most overlook. Which pays off in life as well as poker. Having said that, is there anyone who thinks my mouth is a valueable asset. Cause I think it makes me money lol. In a live game a person can see and hear the opponents actions. But in internet play we dont have as much to work with. But if you give me three tools Ill use them all. Same goes for ten tools, ill use them all to try to get the job done. In tonights tourney i pulled what some call a dirty move on erv gotti. I in the bb had 5 2 spaded. Huge hand right lol. Well no raise and the flop produced a 5 and a flush draw. I called the bet. The turn was a duece, I bet into him and he called. The river gave me the money card, another five. Needing a reaction bet to get paid off I typed "you got me" acting like my flush missed. I then proceeded to bet two thirds of his remaining stack in the hopes that he would go all in. He did call but didnt go all in like I wanted. Some of the guys at the table found the move or trap to be unorthodox. But I needed to get him all in and I needed a way to do that. I used my chat as one of my tools to gain info and to urge or coaz a bet from him. In those situations I always look for the best way to get it all. Thats what I want, I want it all. And Ill steam roll ya if you try to get in my way. My aggression is at an all time high right now. My level of competition is pushing higher each day. Every day I look for a new trick, a niche, something to give me that extra edge. I did not mean to play dirty in that situation. My intentions were to make the man think. To confuse him into doing something drastic. I have used the chat to provoke my opponents into playing off their game and it works. Randy will tell ya, I am one of the best hecklers at bodog. Need a little help, come find me and ill distract your opponent for ya. I can keep a guy chatting for hours. All the while hes not playing as hard as he should. All in all I d like to say use what you have to the best of your ability. Dont be silent but dont spend so much time typing that You forget why you are there. Ask the guy what he had to see what type of lie he serves you with. Ask for a show if you think you are beat and are folding. Whatever it takes to get all the info and chips you need to get paid.

Thank You for your time

Burke

[Randy C]

Very nice post! To add to that, I would just say that information is power in poker, and players must capitalize on whatever they have at their disposal to get that information.

I'm a big advocate of using whatever tool you have to get that information, or to induce a bet. Although poker is said to be a "gentleman's game", at the end of the day we are all there to win! Make no bones about it...we are there to win! People's feelings may get hurt in the process...and although no one wants to be the bad guy...winning is what matters in the end. To the end of those means, we are competitor's, one and all, and deception in poker...no matter how ethically viewed, is what seperates the men from the boy's.

Last year at Foxwoods I met a man by the name of Pat Healey. He was a wise older man from Boston who had been playing poker for over 50 years. I had pocket J's and went all in....He looked at me and asked, "Do you want a call?" I said, "Of course"....and so he did. He smiled and layed out his AJ...and said, "Son, be careful what you ask for, you might just get it." Almost as if he knew the outcome, he danced with glee as the flop turned up the K, Q and 10 that he needed to complete his Royal.

After the tourney, I spoke to Pat and he said, "If you told me not to call you, I wouldn't have." I said, "Really?" He said, "Yep, and the reason why...Poker players are good liars, and if you said you wanted the call, it really means you didn't want the call, and if you said you didn't want the call...that you really did." Just on that little bit of information, Pat was able to draw on the information that I provided to him. And I paid for it dearly with my tournament life.

Information is power! Deception is the very nature of poker...These are basic elements of the game. And if you feel guilty for utilizing either, your poker life is doomed!

All In,

Randy C -

[Triple B333]

I modified the post late last night. New stuff added.

[wtfadam]

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I do agree that you can use the chat as a weapon much like you would with talking while seat at a table. But the only problem is most people can read right through it because it does seem to be so obvious in what you are trying to pull.

There's a guy Benz on Bodog I'm sure some of you have seen him. He's not a bad player and he uses the chat in the same text that Burke does but he seems to take it even further to the point where he can be annoying or to where I simply don't bother reading his text any more. He likes to pull this stunt where he'll go all in and then type "Opps!" or "Oh No!" and of course everyone knows he as aces or kings, but doesn't it seem to work more often then it should for him. Sure enough there always seem to be someone willing to call him. But hey it's all because they take his chat has something other then a sure tell.

Burke you have a good thing because you can continue to use that and at some point when you don't have the hand that other person is going to think twice of not calling you. And you'll win with nothing.

[dalesbad29]

look trip i think that was an ahsome play if i could typ faster i would d**n sure use it to my advantage and for some one to say that was low or wrong then they have the problem that randy stated there game is doomed maybe some think because it was a leauge game that made it wrong well im sorry but i dont care who i am playing against if i can use anything to get your money thats what im going to do take your money !!! i really enjoyed the game last night i thought everyone was playing well. me for one that was the best i have played in awile not sure why but maybe its going to turn around now lol.... and i am with you all the way on this one trip do it to me and i will say very well played as should everyone.....:-}