Post by Randy C on Jan 6, 2007 13:40:54 GMT -4
Last week I was playing in a tourney and I had a bomb of a hand, and this calling station kept calling my raises and reraises all the way to the river.
By the end of the hand, I had the nuts...and I had taken nearly $2700 in chips from the calling station who we will call "Mr. X". On the other side of the table, there was another gentleman who we will call "Mr.Y". Now, Mr. Y had been having a heck of a time dealing with Mr. X because Mr. X kept sucking out on poor Mr. Y... But for all intents and purposes, poor Mr. Y's malady turned out to be my great fortune because I was taking all Mr. Y's chips via Mr. X,... and of course this arrangement was just fine and dandy with old big daddy yum yum!
Anyway, after the hand that I discussed when I started this thread played out, Mr. Y became incensed, fuming even and threatened to report me to the poker site, and anyone else who would listen because he felt that I was in cahoots with Mr. X because I did not put him all in, and in fact left him with about $500 in chips.
Ironically, there was only one person at the table that KNEW why I wanted to keep Mr. X around at the table, and by now, you probably know why too...But the story gets better, so let me finish...
Well, about an hour later, I got an email, and don't you know that Mr. Y reported big daddy yum yum (me) to the poker police and they gave me a phone number for the security department and asked me to call and clarify the hand....and so I did... in spectacular fashion!
The "security specialists" name was Mr. Shelton, and he was a very nice gentleman. In fact, he had commented on my latest ring game performance which made me feel pretty good. So, anyway, Mr. Shelton asks me to check my email and I did. There was a copy of the round that had been played out, and a few others that Mr. Y had pointed out to Mr. Shelton that were "questionable plays" to him. Well we finally made it to the hand that Mr. Y was so incensed about, and M. Shelton asked why I did not put Mr. X all in at that point...He said that it just doesn't make sense because I had the nuts and said that most poker players would have went all in right there, and that that was Mr. Y's point of contention.
I asked Mr. Shelton as I laughed to myself, "Are you a poker player?" He answered that he was...and then he went on to explain that even he couldn't understand why I "let Mr. X off the hook as I did, and thought that perhaps Mr X and I knew each other. I assured him that we did not, and I further went on to explain that not only am I an avid poker player, but I am an avid chess player as well...and that in chess, a good player is always thinking several moves ahead. In many respects the same is true in poker...and I applied that principle right here in this instance. My reason for not putting Mr X all in is simple...He was my ATM...and if I put him out, there goes my conduit of money funneling from Mr. Y via Mr. X to me!!! Anyone with half a brain can figure out that if someone is your greatest source of chips at the table, you would be commiting poker suicide by taking that player out of the action, right? It's just common sense. Mr. Shelton, completely satified with my answer, and agreeing, much to his chagrin, that I had taught him a little something about poker he had never even realized before that day, let me off the hook and even gave me an $11 coupon to a sattellite tourney of my choice.
Now, you're probably wondering where I got this great little technique from. Well, about 2 weeks ago, KennyMc45 sent me an article and in that article was a little blurb about just what I have been speaking of. I put into action that little bit of helpful info and it completely threw off everyone including the security specialist at the poker site!
The crux of this entire thread is that before you are so quick to put that calling station all in...ask yourself this question first; "Am I putting out one of my best sources of chip earnings?" If the answer to that question is "Yes" perhaps you ought to second think the all in move against him/her. It may turn out that that person will be your own personal tourney ATM!!! And that is definately someone you WANT to keep around...
All In,
Randy C~
By the end of the hand, I had the nuts...and I had taken nearly $2700 in chips from the calling station who we will call "Mr. X". On the other side of the table, there was another gentleman who we will call "Mr.Y". Now, Mr. Y had been having a heck of a time dealing with Mr. X because Mr. X kept sucking out on poor Mr. Y... But for all intents and purposes, poor Mr. Y's malady turned out to be my great fortune because I was taking all Mr. Y's chips via Mr. X,... and of course this arrangement was just fine and dandy with old big daddy yum yum!
Anyway, after the hand that I discussed when I started this thread played out, Mr. Y became incensed, fuming even and threatened to report me to the poker site, and anyone else who would listen because he felt that I was in cahoots with Mr. X because I did not put him all in, and in fact left him with about $500 in chips.
Ironically, there was only one person at the table that KNEW why I wanted to keep Mr. X around at the table, and by now, you probably know why too...But the story gets better, so let me finish...
Well, about an hour later, I got an email, and don't you know that Mr. Y reported big daddy yum yum (me) to the poker police and they gave me a phone number for the security department and asked me to call and clarify the hand....and so I did... in spectacular fashion!
The "security specialists" name was Mr. Shelton, and he was a very nice gentleman. In fact, he had commented on my latest ring game performance which made me feel pretty good. So, anyway, Mr. Shelton asks me to check my email and I did. There was a copy of the round that had been played out, and a few others that Mr. Y had pointed out to Mr. Shelton that were "questionable plays" to him. Well we finally made it to the hand that Mr. Y was so incensed about, and M. Shelton asked why I did not put Mr. X all in at that point...He said that it just doesn't make sense because I had the nuts and said that most poker players would have went all in right there, and that that was Mr. Y's point of contention.
I asked Mr. Shelton as I laughed to myself, "Are you a poker player?" He answered that he was...and then he went on to explain that even he couldn't understand why I "let Mr. X off the hook as I did, and thought that perhaps Mr X and I knew each other. I assured him that we did not, and I further went on to explain that not only am I an avid poker player, but I am an avid chess player as well...and that in chess, a good player is always thinking several moves ahead. In many respects the same is true in poker...and I applied that principle right here in this instance. My reason for not putting Mr X all in is simple...He was my ATM...and if I put him out, there goes my conduit of money funneling from Mr. Y via Mr. X to me!!! Anyone with half a brain can figure out that if someone is your greatest source of chips at the table, you would be commiting poker suicide by taking that player out of the action, right? It's just common sense. Mr. Shelton, completely satified with my answer, and agreeing, much to his chagrin, that I had taught him a little something about poker he had never even realized before that day, let me off the hook and even gave me an $11 coupon to a sattellite tourney of my choice.
Now, you're probably wondering where I got this great little technique from. Well, about 2 weeks ago, KennyMc45 sent me an article and in that article was a little blurb about just what I have been speaking of. I put into action that little bit of helpful info and it completely threw off everyone including the security specialist at the poker site!
The crux of this entire thread is that before you are so quick to put that calling station all in...ask yourself this question first; "Am I putting out one of my best sources of chip earnings?" If the answer to that question is "Yes" perhaps you ought to second think the all in move against him/her. It may turn out that that person will be your own personal tourney ATM!!! And that is definately someone you WANT to keep around...
All In,
Randy C~
